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REVIEW: Gangsta. BD+DVD


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ultimatehaki



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:20 am Reply with quote
This review was kinda confusing because I'm pretty sure it was Worrick who was pushing to get Alex off the streets while Nicolas was just gonna kill her like they were told to do.

BTW their nicknames were mixed-up
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DmonHiro





PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:39 am Reply with quote
One of the worst second halfs ever and not because of the lack of budget. The story took a complete nose dive after the 1st arc and made completely no sense. It's just poorly written.

spoiler[Everyone outside discriminated and hates a ceratin group of people because they have super-powers, but nobody has a problem with the OTHER supower-natural group who is way stronger, has no bad side-effects of their power and are completely uncontrolable. Also the bad guys are so stupidly over-powered it's not even funny. This is not how you write a battle story. Oh, and the fact that it devolved INTO a battle story is the niggest strike against it. A fitting title to die on, Manglobe.]
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Greed1914



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:31 am Reply with quote
The sudden stop of an ending certainly didn't help, but I felt like the initial quality dropped off around midway through.
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Themaster20000



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:39 am Reply with quote
That first half is pretty enjoyable, then it just races off a cliff. It's rushes into a giant gang war, but it wasn't even done establishing the fractions, characters, along with their motivations. Shame since it starts with promise.
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Raebo101



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:07 pm Reply with quote
If you don't plan on reading the manga, I'd stop watching the anime at episode 6 or 7 and just make up what happens next in your head or something.

To fanfiction.net!
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Princess_Irene
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:29 pm Reply with quote
ultimatehaki wrote:
This review was kinda confusing because I'm pretty sure it was Worrick who was pushing to get Alex off the streets while Nicolas was just gonna kill her like they were told to do.


It was the fact that spoiler[Nicholas asked for a souvenir and then claimed Alex as it, plus that he was the one to give her the handkerchief] that made me interpret it the way I did. But since it isn't explicitly stated, either viewpoint is probably valid.
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MarshalBanana



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:57 pm Reply with quote
This had hands down the worst ever case of "read the Manga endings" I have ever seen. It literally cuts off part way through a scene.
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Lemonchest



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:23 pm Reply with quote
From memory, it started going downhill when it focused on the two main guys needlessly abusive childhoods (because a bad boy needs a bad past) & then went to hell when it turned into Mafia Ghoul. Not the show you'd want your studio to go out on.
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Tanteikingdomkey



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:30 pm Reply with quote
I will say that anime does a good job of explaining things that happened in the manga UP UNTIL episode 7 or basically volume 4ish/volume 5.

The problem is that the anime REALLY de-emphasizes the important set up for the second half so you have to watch it twice basically to catch up on the fact that they REALLY didn't introduce the 4th family head who is basically the most important.

Then you run into the OH SO SMALL problem that mangaglobe was supposed to make 13 episodes of this series and INSTEAD ONLY MADE 12 AND NEVER MADE THE 13TH episode that they were supposed to because THEY RAN OUT OF MONEY AND WENT BANKRUPT.
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jr240483



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:15 pm Reply with quote
MarshalBanana wrote:
This had hands down the worst ever case of "read the Manga endings" I have ever seen. It literally cuts off part way through a scene.



true enough. though the reviewer shouldnt give the series a negative for that. there was nothing anyone could so since the animation studio that did the series went out of business. otherwise there would have been a second season by now.
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AhomineDaiki



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:20 pm Reply with quote
I agree that Nic and Worick have a really complicated relationship due to their past, but I disagree with Nic not caring about Worick as much as Worick cares for him. It is actually seen more than once that Worick still blames Nic for the death of his family and he still doesn't understand why the both of them are stuck together--they just are. He cares for Nic but a part of him is still questioning their past, present, and future together. Kohsuke has hinted that there is way more to Worick than meets the eye and even though he is always joking around and all smiles, Worick is the one with the most secrets and darkness that hasn't been explored.

Remember that Nic has a contract with Worick and Worick basically "owns" him (although he doesn't like controlling Nic and only uses it as a last resort). It's harder for Nic to express his feelings but compare to Worick, there's a deep and overflowing gentleness and kindness the makes people reach out to him and lean on him during times of need. Nina LOVES Nic, Doug had Nic present when he recorded his final words, and Delico looks up to Nic's strength and ability to carry everything on his shoulders. Although it's hard for him to show it, he cares very deeply for a lot of people, Worick too. (Especially Worick.)

There was an extra manga bundled with one of the Bluray special edition packs last year that showed spoiler[a time when they were younger. Worick was beat up really badly by some of Monroe's thugs and left for dead when they were still living on the streets because he knocked up one of their girls and when Nic saw how bad Worick's injuries were went on a rampage and slaughtered nearly half of Monroe's mafia before he was stopped. When Nicolas was asked why he was killing Monroe's men, Nic simply said they hurt his owner/contracter/Worick.]

Worick and Nic both care for Alex but differently. Worick dotes on her and always makes sure that she's safe like a big (and grossly perverted) big brother. On the other hand with Alex and Nic, their relationship is more complicated and romantic. The anime failed to show this many times like the manga (they seemed pretty anti-Nic-and-Alex) like when Alex sang her song at the club. In the anime Worick and Nic were out helping Twilights find refuge whereas in the manga both of them were present when Alex was singing and Nic stood against the speaker and closed his eyes to feel the vibration of the music and her voice while she sang. In the anime when Alex told Nic not to go during that rainy day, Nic shook her hand off and left but in the manga he gently pried off her hand before leaving. It was spoken of and shown a few times in the anime but never truly explained about spoiler[Nic's romantic relationship with Veronica,] the dying girl at the prostitution house that Nic visits who was also the one that used to live with them before Alex spoiler[and the main reason why he overdoses so much with his drugs]. The reason why they both care for her so much and worry about her is because the both of them were already in the same situation in the past.

When this review is saying the anime stayed too true to the story and that was one of the downfalls I disagree strongly because I think Gangsta. is very unique in its story, characters, and conflicts and staying true to the story was what got viewers to enjoy it. If they decided to just fanfic the ending, it would just ruin the foundation it was built on. (I.E: Tokyo Ghoul) The true downfall was the studio going bankrupt and never producing/releasing the proper ending. I'm caught up with the manga (welcome back Kohsuke from her 2 years hiatus!!) but I was also upset with how the decided to cut off the series too.
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adhamhelmy



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:04 am Reply with quote
I'm pretty sure the production company went bankrupt in the middle of making it, that's why there's no actual ending
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siromkun





PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:25 am Reply with quote
People compare Gangsta to titles like Tokyo Ghoul and Black Lagoon. But in my opinion it's shameless rip-off from Dogs: Bullets & Carnage manga. Similarities between the two are too many to be simple coincidence. I'm really surprised that nobody mentioned it so far.
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Alan45
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:37 am Reply with quote
@sirom84

I read both Gangsta and Dogs: Bullets & Carnage. I don't find them that similar. I would put them in the same genre, but I don't see one as a "rip-off" of the other. They may have superficial similarities, but the stories and characters are sufficiently different to make for two different reading experiences.
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siromkun





PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:40 pm Reply with quote
@Alan45

Both mangas have two male protagonists, one is normal human and other is genetically modified soldier. In both the normal guy is missing an eye. In both protagonists are assassins. In both a woman joins them early on. Both are set in some mysterious town, which is ruled by lawlessness. Its been a long time since I last read Dogs, so I cant recall everything now.
I agree that Gangsta starts to deviate from Dogs as the story progresses. But the initial setting is just toooo similar.

P.S. Sorry for my bad english
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